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Kids and critters
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December 21, 2013
9:43 pm

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I always clean my catch in the field as SWMBO is quite squeamish about the whole thing (she will not even be around when I gut fish).  My youngest likes squirrel, especially when I am cooking, but she is also something of an animal lover.  I try to teach her the ethics of hunting, factory meat, etc. but I find it tough.  Her older sister is vegetarian and SWMBO only eats fish and poultry (and prefers it arrive in anonymous, pre-cut portions at that).  I have yet to get acquiesnce to even take my eldest out to learn to shoot.

 

Anyway, in deference to household sensibilities, I always clean my catch in the field, no exceptions.  Yesterday I had my two rabbits and two squirrels cleaned and was hustling for the truck to get home in time for a kid holiday performance when I saw a squirrel sunning itself on a tree limb.  I had the sun to my back and he did not see me or move.  I could not resist, so I sent him a 20 gauge dinner invitation.  Squirrel in the bag, but I had no time to clean him since I was barely going to make it home in time already.  So I finally had to clean a squirrel at home.  Everyone else disappeared, but my youngest told me she wanted to see the squirrel.  After asking if she was sure, I showed it to her.  She wanted to know what color squirrel blood was, so when I cut the tail she saw.  That was about as much as she wanted to see and I wanted to show her, so she went inside until I was done (and took the theiving hound dogs with her).  I showed her the carcass when I was done.  I got mixed messages later that evening, stating that she didn’t want to eat squirrel any more and that she did want to eat it.  I guess we will see when I serve it up next.

 

I am not quite sure how to get this all across to a 7 year old.  The rest of the  family is funny about meat, where it comes from, animal ethics, etc.  I don’t want to put her off one of her favorite foods, yet I don’t want to mislead her or get the wrong message across.  I make a point of telling her that out of respect to the animal we use every part of it that we can (I keep the tails for Mepp’s and I may start tanning squirrel hides) and that unlike the factory chicken the squirrel got to live a full life as a squirrel in the wild before it became dinner for us.  Anything else I should be trying to get across?

December 22, 2013
1:35 pm
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Sounds like you are on the right track to me brewer.

 

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Southern by the grace of God.

December 22, 2013
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This is one of those topics that in the last couple of years I try to stay away from, but with whats going on in todays world I think I got to give my thoughts. Now I have never been a fella to mince words but brewer you are screwedfrown. Now I know your going to get upset because my opinion that is based on personal experiences will offend you but heck here goes. My kids and many of children of the folks who post here probably were lugging dead squirrels and fish around when they were three years old. They saw deer hanging in trees in the yard or the barn and were standing there when they were butchered. And for me that was both sons and daughter nieces and nephews. They saw it from the time they could remember and had no second thoughts. They were told at the table what the meat was and no more was said about it. My wife who went hunting with here dad only a few times was raised on wild game and has no problem eating it (she don’t like quail) all of here sisters and their kids will eat wild game except onethinkingNow the one sister whos kids will not touch a piece of wild game or meat in general for the most part had the misfortune of marrying a fella who did not hunt or fish and his family did not hunt or fish. I will never forget one Christmas gathering when they stayed at our house and I was skinning coons the next morning after the previous nights hunt those three kids squalling and bawling over coons being skinned out in the back yard. You would have thought I had smashed the new Ninetendo they just got for Christmas.

 

Now all of my kids had also shot guns from the time they could hold them, my daughter Danielle would go squirrel hunting with me when she was 4 or 5 years old and would go to sleep with her head on lap in the woods (I think that was some of the last times I sat down while hunting)giggle I really think that you are facing a very hard task and wish you luck. beer-chugs 

 

SHOOT EM IN THE FACE!

December 22, 2013
6:35 pm
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some people you can never convince , grownups? however keep on trying with the kids . and teach your son to shoot over any objections …  my grandfather taught me to shoot on his knee when I was about 4 . and after a couple of lessons went around the house shooting sparrows so I would know that it would kill.  My present wife was educated a few weeks before we married by the road killed buck on ice in the bathtub, much damage to my van . really warm weather and afternoon dove hunt. she will not eat any game except pheasant nor any freshwater fish. so I get to eat all of it.  

to remain silent and be considered a fool or speak and remove all doubt?

December 22, 2013
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I have never quite understood the mindset of “Selective Killing”, wherein it’s OK to kill & eat critter A but killing & eating critter B is considered morally appalling. I can understand if someone doesn’t care for the taste of a particular animal but to make up some arbitrary set of moral guidelines seems somewhat hypocritical. Poor chickens & fish, they must have the world’s worst PR guy.

For you Brewer, I think the 22man is right that you’re screwed. At the very least you have a tough uphill climb. Pretty much anything I would suggest doing is just going to piss your wife off so perhaps it is best if I keep my big mouth shut.

December 23, 2013
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Silas said

I have never quite understood the mindset of “Selective Killing”, wherein it’s OK to kill & eat critter A but killing & eating critter B is considered morally appalling. I can understand if someone doesn’t care for the taste of a particular animal but to make up some arbitrary set of moral guidelines seems somewhat hypocritical. Poor chickens & fish, they must have the world’s worst PR guy.

For you Brewer, I think the 22man is right that you’re screwed. At the very least you have a tough uphill climb. Pretty much anything I would suggest doing is just going to piss your wife off so perhaps it is best if I keep my big mouth shut.

 

My wife has actually made big strides and has gone from freaking out about a .22 in the house to sitting at the table with me while I am eating game.  I don’t push too much and I pick my battles, so thus far it has worked in my favor.  She will never go hunting with me (fine by me, as it is my “get my head back in order” time), but she did eat the chukar I shot last month, much to my amazement.

 

As for critter A vs. critter B, I myself am a bit more nuanced.  I will never eat dog, and I will never intentionally hunt coyotes since they are too dog-like (self defense is another matter).  I don’t eat factory farmed pork or beef due to the widespread cruelty in the industry.  But I eat grass fed beef and bison on occasion and I look forward to the day (maybe next year) when I take a trip somewhere overrun with feral hogs and figure out how to hunt the buggers (possibly with the help of a guide).

 

Both my kids are girls.  My eldest is actually interested in learning to shoot and has already dabbled in archery, so I think its just a mattere of time before we get out in the woods with a .22.

December 23, 2013
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Sounds like it’s working for you but I’ll bet you have some interesting conversationsconfused

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